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What the report says actually?

Any brief?
The 9th leg of the symmetrical is confirmed. So you can expect the current rally to get the markets to around 18350 in 9-13 weeks from start of rally [week ending Jun-04]; if it breaks 18400, the symmetric is broken and then bull market should start. Not very sure about the target but it should be about all-time high 22000.
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Symmetrical should end in 9 waves and as per the report this is the 9th to be followed by a downside break.
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Smile This week's i.e. 28th June report.

Please post the link for this week!
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Symmetrical should end in 9 waves and as per the report this is the 9th to be followed by a downside break.
Where did you get the 'downward break' part from?

Vivek's report says:
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This rhythm breaks below 15900 or above 18400. Beyond these levels, directional bull/bear call can be taken.
All members:

Personally, what you guys think will the market do? Do you think the break out will happen on upside or downside?

I missed the bus when markets rallied from 8k to 18k. I would like if the the larger C opened up after 'i' ends this symmetric so I could make some money this time. .
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"Where did you get the 'downward break' part from?"

Well I thought that the count has to change in case of an upside break-out !
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Also look at this link.

In case of a symmetrical the expectation is that it ends in "i" the ninth wave.

In case of VP's report, this is also expected to complete the major "B". If so then the next major "C"'s direction is on downside. The break on the downside confirms that the ninth wave has ended at the top. In case of a break-up, then the validity of a symmetrical in under question

http://www.neowave.com/qow/qow-archive-5.asp

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This week's report:

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Please upload this week's report.
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Can someone upload this week's report?
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What is Mr. Vivek saying this week? Can someone please post the link?
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What is Mr. Vivek saying this week? Can someone please post the link?
Here is your link:

http://content.icicidirect.com/ULFil...1082114434.asp
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Please post this week's report.
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Vivek Patil's report for 23rd August 2010:

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Has Vivek Patil changed his symmetric count or does he have an alternate count now?
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Dear All

The entire analysis has gone wrong and because of that I have lost lot of money.

From 8047 he has been bearish on every count.

Giving us stop counts at every 2000 to 2500 points.

Not only me but lot of fund managers who follow him too have lost money.

Please don't believe blindly in his analysis

He had full confidence in the symmetrical wave count

It;s disgusting just to be on one side of the game.

You have to think rationale on both sides.
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Can someone post VP's latest analysis?
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Can someone post VP's latest analysis?
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BTW in such a bull market, no technical works. .

Such bullish scenario can take Sensex anywhere that we never imagine in last one year. .

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Alchemist: Thanks.

It is ironical that there are alternate scenarios laid out for longer term but not on a shorter frame.
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Elliot wave has gone terribly wrong, as before.

These analysts are just making a time-pass. Don't make your investment decisions based on these people's analysis.

Analyze yourself and invest with conviction.

Else, invest through a SIP in any top mutual fund scheme. They have given a return of about 25-30% p.a, despite the crash of 2008.
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No technical analysis (including EW) can give a one-sided picture on market direction. It is always an expectation and probable scenario with caveats on when to revisit the view. There is no holy grail.

We cannot then find fault with a method that will give probable scenarios

I agree that many EW blogs were calling for a top (including neo-wave followers). But there were few that have called for an upside break-out and have questioned the wave counts of even Neely (by using his own methods). It is possible that VP might eventually change his count for a much higher target ; if we were to treat the entire up move from March 09 as a major "a", the long sideways as a neutral triangle or a double flat "b" and the current break-out as "c" all within the major B.

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By analysing the wave count from 7500 till date and being bearish, thinking that this is the last wave count for uptrend to finish we have lost the entire bull cycle of 7500 to 20500.

We have to be rationale rather to be on one side thinking.
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After having our target near Grid of 20250, Sensex is now trading above it. A decisive move sustaining above 20250 can open the next Grid level of 22700.
Really? This makes me uncomfortable. I have a lot of money in shares now. I think I have some bad stocks because they are below my buying price. Should I get out now even if profit OR loss? Fear of losing more .
P.S: Overall portfolio is in decent profit.
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Sachin: Could you please post VP's latest counts?
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Sachin: Could you please post VP's latest counts?
If you are asking for the link, here it is:

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Here is a technical analyst , who talks about p/e ratio, fundamentally expensive etc.

He has gone wayward in his technical analyis, and he is searching for solution from p/e etc.
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Hi Alchemist,

Please post this weeks link and for the last few weeks, if possible.

Thanking you.
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Default Vivek Patil's Analysis is Confusing.

Dear Alchemist,

1. He predicted 20000+ for Sensex when it was trading around 8000!

2. He predicted sub-10000 Sensex level when it cracked 18000!!

3. He wrongly predicted Sensex target of around 5500 when it was 8000 in Oct 2008 & March 2009!!! In addition, he consistently failed to predict mother of all bull market in March 2009. Now he became bullish- probably we are sitting in last leg of intermediate bull-market correction!!!
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I already stopped reading his reports long ago.

I dont know why I felt that it was a waste of time .

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Take contra view upon reading his analysis.

Some of his views could be correct: -

1. Index takes more than 50% hit every eight years -

It happened in 1992, 2000 & 2008.

2. Leaders of bull market will become laggards in next bull phase for many years-

See real-estate & Ambani Group stocks.

Current bull market leaders are financial & auto sector.
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Well we are in a phase when most of counts are unclear Whether Elliotwave or Neo Wave.

That is reason his targets are not very clear.

But some of his views are solid.

Leaders of this rally will be laggards, so don't keep holding the baby, when he starts crying.

8 years cyclical theory is also interesting one!
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Some of his views could be correct: -

1. Index takes more than 50% hit every eight years -

It happened in 1992, 2000 & 2008.
I think he didn't predict this. He just extracted from the charts what is already happening in the market.
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I think he didn't predict this. He just extracted from the charts what is already happening in the market.
I am not a fan of Vivek Patil and have given up reading his posts now. But to his credit he did forecast the 2008 crash based on the 8 year cycle.

I read his posts regularly in 2007 and distinctly remember that the 8 year cycle was listed in one of the alternate scenarios well before the crash.
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I am not a fan of Vivek Patil and have given up reading his posts now. But to his credit he did forecast the 2008 crash based on the 8 year cycle.

I read his posts regularly in 2007 and distinctly remember that the 8 year cycle was listed in one of the alternate scenarios well before the crash.
We should be prepared for another crash in 2016 then. .

Does it mean to sell everything in 2015? If so who is gonna to buy?

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I think I should start reading this reports weekly so that I could get some information.
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We should be prepared for another crash in 2016 then. .

Does it mean to sell everything in 2015? If so who is gonna to buy?
This is what is known as a self fulfilling prophecy.

Assuming the prophecy is going to come true, people will sell en masse. Because people sell, the prophecy will come true.
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