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Old 7th December 2010, 06:49 PM
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A2Z Maintenance and Engineering Services IPO

It has got backing of the big bull Rakesh Jhunjhunwala.

IPO opens tomorrow.

Reasons why one should invest:-

1) Strong performance shown by the promoters over the last 4 years.

2) Backing by Mr. Jhunjhunwala.

3) Strong growth expected.

Reasons why one should avoid:-

1) Overpriced - Listed peers available at much cheaper valuations.

2) EPC and Power is not the flavor of the markets (Although I like this segment).

I will not apply for this issue because:-

1) I don't have money. My money is blocked in ASBA for SCI

2) Even if I had the money, I would not have applied because valuations are extremely expensive.

3) I will track this company but will not buy the shares now. Once the dust settles after 6 months to 1 year, it might be available at attractive valuations.

Gray market premium is Rs 75-80.
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I agree with the above post.

A2Z Maintenance and Engineering Services is a good company, but the IPO is extremely over-priced.

I will skip this one too.
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Agreed that the valuations are expensive, but can we play for listing gains, especially since it has the backing of Jhunjhunwala?
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I don't go for this IPO because Rakesh Jhunjhunuwala has his share in it.

Look at Praj and Punj Llyod. He is holding in these companies too.

Now both are bleeding. I am not saying companies are not good.

He bought Delta corp and KRBL.

KRBL shot up like rocket when this news came.

and now? back to square one.

Rakesh J. can sell his stake any time from any company.

I am not comfortable about the price of this IPO.

So I pass on.

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Agreed that the valuations are expensive, but can we play for listing gains, especially since it has the backing of Jhunjhunwala?
Jhunjhunwala got the shares at a fraction of the IPO price.

I am sure he won't buy at the IPO price.
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I find the issue overpriced, The company seems to be poor in collecting dues from its debtors, more that 60% of the revenue is outstanding, that makes me feel the books are made up, particularly so when the company is operating with a negative cash inflow for consecutively 4 years. Avoiding it

PS, The price per share Rakesh Jhunjunwala paid is Rs. 14/-, he is going make a windfall, don't know about IPO applicants.
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I find the issue overpriced, The company seems to be poor in collecting dues from its debtors, more that 60% of the revenue is outstanding, that makes me feel the books are made up, particularly so when the company is operating with a negative cash inflow for consecutively 4 years.
Over 90% of the company's revenues come from government authorities and public sector undertakings.

Such companies usually have high "debtor days" as government departments and companies take a long time to make payments.

I didn't look at the cash flow statement and thus won't comment on the cash flows.

After I looked at the valuations that the company was asking for, I just stopped reading the RHP.
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Over the time what I have learnt from Rakesh Jhunjhunwala investment is this.

He has already made crores of rupees.

Now what he does is self promotion.

In any business he feels will do well. Instead of starting same he buys the company shares from promoters at any cheap price. At least his name guarantees good return to the promoter.

Now say he got shares at 14 rupees. And he sell half his holding at 28. He gets his original money back. Plus he have the rest of shares to get him speculative return.

He just have to sit and enjoy the game.

Also here the valuation is not 28 much more than that. More than 30 times his investment.What else to say.

They all have turned Venture Capitalist .I am sure he will sell his holding once the share lists as that's the reason it's come into news he have holdings in it.

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After I looked at the valuations that the company was asking for, I just stopped reading the RHP
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Liked the last line .
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At least his name guarantees good return to the promoter.
100% agreed.

Rakesh Jhunjhunwala will get back his invested amount by selling a few shares in the IPO and thus rest of his shares will now have zero cost.

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Rakesh Jhunjhunwala to get Rs 20.5cr via A2Z IPO.
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My question was just for listing gains. Sell at 9:15. Will there be any gains just because Jhunjhunwala's name is attached to this one?
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Skipping this one. Looks like a zero sum game to me.
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My question was just for listing gains. Sell at 9:15. Will there be any gains just because Jhunjhunwala's name is attached to this one?
There won't be any listing gains if institutional demand isn't there.

As at 11 AM, the IPO has been subscribed just 0.83 times and there doesn't seem to much demand for the IPO.

If the overall subscription crosses 7 times, then I think the stock can list at a small premium.

Now, there is just 2%-3% grey market premium for A2Z Maintenance and Engineering Services.
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My question was just for listing gains. Sell at 9:15. Will there be any gains just because Jhunjhunwala's name is attached to this one?
I am looking to speculate for flipping gains on 9:15 am.

Will take a call by 2:30pm depending on QIB subscription.

QIB subscription level on NSE is available at NSE site.

Does anybody has idea where its available for BSE?
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Atiker, how do you apply so that you can wait till 2.30 pm?
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Atiker, how do you apply so that you can wait till 2.30 pm?
I use ICICI Direct, it allows till 3:00 pm.

Actually I always apply at 2:55 pm Unless it's a sure shot "apply" like COAL or MOIL.
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More than half the applicants withdraw their application at 3 PM, I saw an over subscription figure of 1.12 times around 1 PM, now its down to 0.53, Jhunjhunwala magic not working.
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It is good to see that market is teaching greedy promoters a lesson .
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More than half the applicants withdraw thier application at 3pm
I haven't applied for this IPO but would like to know from fellow boarders -

Is it possible to online withdraw application filed via ICICI Direct? If yes how?

If not online, then how to withdraw offline? (question specific for ICICIDirect).
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I haven't applied for this IPO but would like to know from fellow boarders -

Is it possible to online withdraw application filed via ICICI Direct? If yes how?

If not online, then how to withdraw offline? (question specific for ICICIDirect).

Yes you can, before the issue closes you can, go to ORDER BOOK, click on TRANSACTION ID, you will find the option to withdraw or modify the application, but remember this is only before the issue closes.
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On moneycontrol.com, I read that this issue has sailed through but according to NSE it is showing that this issue has been subscribed 0.96 times.

How is this possible?
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On moneycontrol.com, I read that this issue has sailed through but according to NSE it is showing that this issue has been subscribed 0.96 times.

How is this possible?
The issue had got subscribed fully, but later many applications were withdrawn.

Anyway, at 0.96 times, the company can still issue shares.

Those who applied for the IPO will get 100% allotment.
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Almost 20% down. Jhunjhunwala still makes the kill .
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Almost 20% down. Jhunjhunwala still makes the kill .
Even if it had fallen to half the rate of issue price still Jhunjhunwala had made more than 200% return.

Unless it touches 250 rate it won't be under my watchlist.
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Even if it had fallen to half the rate of issue price still Jhunjhunwala had made more than 200% return.

Unless it touches 250 rate it won't be under my watchlist.
Yes. I read in this forum only that his bought price was 14/- per share. Not verified from any other sources though.
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Yes. I read in this forum only that his bought price was 14/- per share. Not verified from any other sources though.
His average cost per shares is little more than 14.

According to RHP:

Jhunjhunwala got 429,898 in 2006 at 418.70.

Another 45,000 in 2007 at 502.44.

The company gave 11:1 bonus in August 2007 and 3:2 bonus in March 2010.

After the first bonus his number of shares went up by 12 times and after the second bonus his number of shares went up by 2.5 times.

In other words, his cost/share came down to 1/30th of the original cost.

Cost of his 2006 shares = 13.96.

Cost of his 2007 shares = 16.75.
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Hi!
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According to RHP:
Could you share the link where we can find the RHP.

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Jhunjhunwala got 429,898 in 2006 at 418.70.

Another 45,000 in 2007 at 502.44.
If we calculate average shares price taken by Rakesh Jhunjhunwala in 2006 and 2007 is around 730.62 if my calculation is not wrong.

Nevertheless he might have bought more in the following years.

But still I don't understand how come his per share price came down to Rs 13 or 14 Rs?

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The company gave 11:1 bonus in August 2007 and 3:2 bonus in March 2010.
Bonus/split is not an issue. Price just falls according to it. So this is not taken in consideration.

Another Big doubt:

If a company is not listed anywhere on any exchange.

Does that company have rights to issue shares?

If so then on what basis it issue the shares?

Can anyone get share before listing ?

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If we calculate average shares price taken by Rakesh Jhunjhunwala in 2006 and 2007 is around 730.62 if my calculation is not wrong.

Nevertheless he might have bought more in the following years.
I don't know how did you arrive 730.62 figure.

429,898 * 418.7 = 179998292.6

45,000* 502.44 = 22609800

Total shares = 474,898

Total Amount = Rs:20,26,08,092.6

So per share price = Rs:426.63

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Bonus/split is not an issue. Price just falls according to it. So this is not taken in consideration.
Why did you think that it is not an issue? You have to consider this to get the actual cost of a share.
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Could you share the link where we can find the RHP.
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If we calculate average shares price taken by Rakesh Jhunjhunwala in 2006 and 2007 is around 730.62 if my calculation is not wrong.

Nevertheless he might have bought more in the following years.

But still I don't understand how come his per share price came down to Rs 13 or 14 Rs?
Suppose you bought 10 shares of a company for Rs 100, total Rs 1000.

Now when the company gave 3:1 bonus, mean you got 3 shares for every 1 held.

So at Total Cost price of Rs 1000, now you have 40 shares. Your Average Acquisition Cost = 1000/40 = 250 Rs

So, in effect your acquisition cost reduced by 1/4th of the original. This is purely your acquisition cost irrespective of market cost of the shares.

Now read Alchemist's post in light of this and you will understand how average cost came down to near Rs 14.

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Bonus/split is not an issue. Price just falls according to it. So this is not taken in consideration.
Price falls for sure, but this was at 2007. The same shares were listed for a price of Rs 400 shares.

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Another Big doubt:

If a company is not listed anywhere on any exchange.

Does that company have rights to issue shares?

If so then on what basis it issue the shares?

Can anyone get share before listing ?
The biggest advantage of a Limited Company over a Sole Proprietorship or Partnership entity is the limited liability of the Promoters to the limit of the Owner's Equity.

Promoter's are issued shares on the basis of the initial capital brought forward by them. As the company grows the company's Net worth grows by the means of accumulated profits (retained earnings). Also expected future growth can lead to a higher forward P/E which may also lead to the shares being priced higher to other investors.

Promoter's can rope in Strategic Investors (like Rakesh Jhunjhunwala in this case) who are offered ownership of the company at the prevalent prices at the time of offer.

By listing in the markets companies provide a liquidity option for existing shareholders/employees to sell their shares.
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Just check the bulk deals today. RJ bought back his 500000 shares from open market. Even the promoter Amit Mittal bought 895000 shares.

But, one should not buy shares just because RJ is buying. His time frame is many many years.

I feel that at the CMP, stock is fully valued. I will wait for a level below 280 to buy its shares. The company has huge potential for expansion and its IPO received grade 4. So, this means the company is fundamentally strong.
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Just check the bulk deals today. RJ bought back his 500000 shares from open market. Even the promoter Amit Mittal bought 895000 shares.

But, one should not buy shares just because RJ is buying. His time frame is many many years.

I feel that at the CMP, stock is fully valued. I will wait for a level below 280 to buy its shares. The company has huge potential for expansion and its IPO received grade 4. So, this means the company is fundamentally strong.
Point is inspite of their buying, The price went down. Hence the obvious question is who sold the shares? Of course people who might have acquired at less price than the IPO price. (Apart from the NII who might have booked losses ). If some of the promoters have sold it then that should have been reflected in the bulk deal.

I am confused now.
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If some of the promoters have sold it then that should have been reflected in the bulk deal.
Promoters can't sell for a year now.

None of pre-IPO shares can be sold for next 1 year.

From the RHP:

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Pursuant to Regulation 36 of the ICDR Regulations, at least an aggregate of 20% of the post-Issue shareholding of the Promoter shall be locked-in for a period of three years from the date of Allotment.
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C. Details of share capital locked-in for one year:

In addition to the Equity Shares proposed to be locked-in as part of the Promoter’s contribution as stated above, the entire pre-Issue equity share capital of the Company will be locked-in for a period of one year from the date of allotment of Equity Shares in the Issue, other than 4,556,193 Equity Shares which are being transferred and sold in the Offer for Sale. Accordingly, [*] Equity Shares representing approximately [*] of the post-Issue paid-up share capital of the Company, will be locked in for a period of one year from the date of Allotment of the Equity Shares in the Issue.
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Heard on news channel that Jhunjhunwala bought 10 lakh shares yesterday.

but in block deals I see 5 lakh quantity bought yesterday.

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Heard on news channel that Jhunjhunwala bought 10 lakh shares yesterday.

but in block deals I see 5 lakh quantity bought yesterday.

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Check the Bulk Deals under A2Z Stock page in moneycontrol for yesterday.

Here's a snapshot captured from there.

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Check the Bulk Deals under A2Z Stock page in moneycontrol for yesterday.

Here's a snapshot captured from there.

Ohh fine I was searching only on his and his firm name.

So is he still positive about this company?

What do you people think?
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Today, it has increased because yesterday RJ bought some shares.

But, according to me today's move is looking like a trap for retail investors.

I like the company but I will buy only once it is below 280. 250 will be an attractive price.

Please don't buy the shares right now. Wait for 2-3 weeks at least.

For long term, company looks good.
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