E Investing India - Online Community for Investors and Traders  

Go Back   E Investing India - Online Community for Investors and Traders > Stock Markets > Individual Portfolios
Read All Rules Contact Site Administrator

Individual Portfolios Share your investment portfolios in this section. However, if you have a query on any particular stock, it is best to post in the "Individual Stocks" forum.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 14th December 2010, 12:25 AM
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Kolkata
Posts: 841
Rep Power: 135
Prudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond repute
Default Investing in Gold



Hi All,


The scenario :

A person in my neighborhood needs advice regarding buying gold for the purpose of his daughter's marriage. He wants to invest Rs 3 lakhs for this. Although the marraige is 12-15 months from now, but seeing this constant upsurge in gold prices, he wants to lock in money to ensure that he at least buys gold at current levels and not more than that. He has 3 lakhs cash available with him.

Option 1 >> Pay 3 lacs to jeweler and lockin 150 gms of gold at current prices.Although the money won't earn any interest for him, it will ensure safety from future price hikes.

Option 2 >> Buy ETF for 3 lacs in a phased manner and redeem before marraige. Major drawback is he has never operated a demat account, and is not familiar with ETFs or taxes etc arising from it.

Option 3>> Park the money in a short term FD and wait for a price correction to act on option 1 in a phased manner.


All fellow boarders, who track gold prices, kindly suggest what would be the best solution for this person.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 14th December 2010, 10:33 AM
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 572
Rep Power: 58
Atiker has much to be proud ofAtiker has much to be proud ofAtiker has much to be proud ofAtiker has much to be proud ofAtiker has much to be proud ofAtiker has much to be proud ofAtiker has much to be proud ofAtiker has much to be proud of
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Prudent_Investor View Post
Hi All,


The scenario :

A person in my neighborhood needs advice regarding buying gold for the purpose of his daughter's marriage. He wants to invest Rs 3 lakhs for this. Although the marraige is 12-15 months from now, but seeing this constant upsurge in gold prices, he wants to lock in money to ensure that he at least buys gold at current levels and not more than that. He has 3 lakhs cash available with him.

Option 1 >> Pay 3 lacs to jeweler and lockin 150 gms of gold at current prices.Although the money won't earn any interest for him, it will ensure safety from future price hikes.

Option 2 >> Buy ETF for 3 lacs in a phased manner and redeem before marraige. Major drawback is he has never operated a demat account, and is not familiar with ETFs or taxes etc arising from it.

Option 3>> Park the money in a short term FD and wait for a price correction to act on option 1 in a phased manner.


All fellow boarders, who track gold prices, kindly suggest what would be the best solution for this person.
If daughter and future son-in-law are smart, they should take ETF units or better equity MF units as gift.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 14th December 2010, 10:48 AM
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 902
Rep Power: 43
ramkasi is a splendid one to beholdramkasi is a splendid one to beholdramkasi is a splendid one to beholdramkasi is a splendid one to beholdramkasi is a splendid one to beholdramkasi is a splendid one to behold
Default

how about parking the money in SILVER for that fixed period.

buy eight [kg] Biscuits and sleep for 15 months
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 14th December 2010, 11:44 AM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 14
Rep Power: 2
Loganathan.S is on a distinguished road
Default

That's a good idea to invest in silver. One of my friend bought 3 Kgs of silver biscuits in August at the price of 30.72/gram. Now the current price is 44.17/gram. This is my view. Please take the advice of others too. Thanks
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 14th December 2010, 02:46 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 49
Rep Power: 3
Ravi C is on a distinguished road
Question Gold SIP

All fellow boarders, who track gold prices, kindly suggest what would be the best solution for this person.[/quote]

Commodity prices are volatile. Your neighbour needs money next year. Don't time gold price, allow time to purchase in phased manner.

Parking cash for interest in Time Deposit of Bank & purchasing gold jewellery worth 25k / month over next 12 months could be good idea.

Even best analysts ever timed the market even half-the time!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 14th December 2010, 09:45 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 126
Rep Power: 4
ajitpalsingh is on a distinguished road
Default

man4urheart tracks gold on a regular basis.

Here is one of his last posts on his blog.

Decide accordingly.

Elliot Wave India: GOLD - Near climax?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 19th December 2010, 02:59 PM
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Kolkata
Posts: 841
Rep Power: 135
Prudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Atiker View Post
If daughter and future son-in-law are smart, they should take ETF units or better equity MF units as gift.
This is not about gift, the money needs to be utilized to procure gold to be used in jewelery at the time of wedding. Only concern is protection from rising gold prices.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ramkasi View Post
how about parking the money in SILVER for that fixed period.

buy eight [kg] Biscuits and sleep for 15 months

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loganathan.S View Post
That's a good idea to invest in silver. One of my friend bought 3 Kgs of silver biscuits in August at the price of 30.72/gram. Now the current price is 44.17/gram. This is my view. Please take the advice of others too. Thanks
Silver has had a nice runup in the past few months. However, if silver prices tanks and gold price rises, it will defeat the purpose. Buying Gold ETF is a safer bet in this respect.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Ravi C View Post
Commodity prices are volatile. Your neighbour needs money next year. Don't time gold price, allow time to purchase in phased manner.

Parking cash for interest in Time Deposit of Bank & purchasing gold jewellery worth 25k / month over next 12 months could be good idea.

Even best analysts ever timed the market even half-the time!
This is not about timing the market. This is about hedging against rising gold prices from a 12-15 months perspective.

Jewelery can't be purchased in a staggering manner as choice and design needs to be determined once only as per contemporary style and trend.

Option 1 is about parking the money with the jeweler to ensure that you get the same rates for gold while procuring the jewelery at a later date.

In fact option 3 mentions parking this money in a staggered manner.However I wanted to know what would be the best possible strategy in this case and why

Quote:
Originally Posted by ajitpalsingh View Post
man4urheart tracks gold on a regular basis.

Here is one of his last posts on his blog.

Decide accordingly.

Elliot Wave India: GOLD - Near climax?
Thanks for the link.

Would appreciate comments from man4urheart on this strategy.

From a correcting perspective Option 3 seems to be more suitable.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 29th January 2011, 10:52 AM
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Kolkata
Posts: 841
Rep Power: 135
Prudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Hi All,

Please comment on the most efficient strategy to hedge against future gold price?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 30th January 2011, 06:18 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,695
Rep Power: 36
man4urheart is a glorious beacon of lightman4urheart is a glorious beacon of lightman4urheart is a glorious beacon of lightman4urheart is a glorious beacon of lightman4urheart is a glorious beacon of light
Default

For the record, I will recommend doing a FD and buying Gold in market.

I am bearish on Gold for next 20 years, as that is when it will bottom out!

It has finished its bull cycle of 10 years!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 30th January 2011, 12:16 PM
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 902
Rep Power: 43
ramkasi is a splendid one to beholdramkasi is a splendid one to beholdramkasi is a splendid one to beholdramkasi is a splendid one to beholdramkasi is a splendid one to beholdramkasi is a splendid one to behold
Default

Hi man please post the chart of last ten years of Gold, Silver.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 30th January 2011, 05:45 PM
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Kolkata
Posts: 841
Rep Power: 135
Prudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond reputePrudent_Investor has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ramkasi View Post
Hi man please post the chart of last ten years of Gold, Silver.
Here you go, from man4urheart's blog, Gold - Game Over!
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 19th April 2011, 07:43 AM
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 902
Rep Power: 43
ramkasi is a splendid one to beholdramkasi is a splendid one to beholdramkasi is a splendid one to beholdramkasi is a splendid one to beholdramkasi is a splendid one to beholdramkasi is a splendid one to behold
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ramkasi View Post
how about parking the money in SILVER for that fixed period.

buy eight [kg] Biscuits and sleep for 15 months
Old article:

Gold crosses Rs 20,700-level, silver breaches Rs 44,000-mark - Times Of India

Now silver crosses 66000 I think it's 50% return in 5 months.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 19th April 2011, 07:59 AM
Sachin Asher
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Vadodara
Posts: 8,631
Rep Power: 383
Alchemist has a reputation beyond reputeAlchemist has a reputation beyond reputeAlchemist has a reputation beyond reputeAlchemist has a reputation beyond reputeAlchemist has a reputation beyond reputeAlchemist has a reputation beyond reputeAlchemist has a reputation beyond reputeAlchemist has a reputation beyond reputeAlchemist has a reputation beyond reputeAlchemist has a reputation beyond reputeAlchemist has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ramkasi View Post
Old article:

Gold crosses Rs 20,700-level, silver breaches Rs 44,000-mark - Times Of India

Now silver crosses 66000 I think it's 50% return in 5 months.
Silver is rally like anything.

Exactly a year back, Silver was trading at $17.50 per ounce. Today it is trading at $42.80 per ounce. That's 145% appreciation in one year.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Gold ETF? onkara.hm Exchange Traded Funds 14 15th November 2010 10:37 AM
Gold Coin/Jewellery or Gold BeES? rajsharmani1 Commodities Trading 2 21st October 2009 05:17 PM
Deccan Gold guru-dhiru Individual Stocks 2 15th October 2009 03:39 PM
Gold - Best Way to Buy? Newby Commodities Trading 10 28th February 2009 03:40 PM
Tax - Gold Futures vs Gold ETF kkr555 Taxation & Legal 3 2nd February 2009 08:14 AM


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 02:19 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0
Ad Management plugin by RedTyger